Official 2012-13 Offseason thread - trades, rumours, etc

Shaun · Jul 4, 2012

ive had my fingers crossed for Courntey Lee in a bulls uni ever since that rumour was first floated before the season, i love that dude and wish he would play for a team i actually care about

Jaames · Jul 4, 2012

aussiemjfreak said:
Why!?!? They are actually both really similar in a lot of ways. DWill gets more dimes but thats about it. They have both developed Long Range game in recent seasons, Rose can get to the basket a lot more and better the DWill...... Yes Im a die hard Bulls fan, but Im not willing to say Rose is miles ahead of Dwill, but when someone says DWIll over Rose in a heartbeat, with no reason it makes me wonder why................

Because for me Rose has only played one great season and Williams is a proven year after year top quality point guard, having said that my opinion might change after a few more seasons if Rose stays healthy.

Jaames · Jul 4, 2012

Matty4292 said:
Imagine our Depth Chart lol

PG: Lawson, A. Miller, Fournier
SG: Mayo, Afflalo, Brewer, Hamilton
SF: Gallinari, Chandler, Q. Miller
PF: Faried, Harrington, Koufos, Stone
C: McGee, Mozgov, Andersen

Are teams allowed to have that amount of players in the squad?

aussiemjfreak · Jul 4, 2012

Fair enough, I guess. But Rose has been good all 4 of his seasons.... Including this season with his injuries... He has higher averages in just about every stat other then Assists and has less TO's then DWill too! But DWill does have higher 3pt %! But I see where you are coming from!

Rose: 4 seasons
G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF
PPG
Career -- 279 278 36.8 0.464 0.310 0.815 1.0 2.9 3.8 6.8 0.9 0.4 2.92 1.47
21.0

Williams: 7 Seasons

G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Career -- 506 473 35.7 0.455 0.351 0.812 0.5 2.8 3.3 9.2 1.1 0.2 3.16 2.65 17.6

Matty4292 · Jul 4, 2012

Jaames said:
Are teams allowed to have that amount of players in the squad?

I don't believe so, I'm pretty sure Stone and/or Q.Miller and/or Hamilton won't be there come tip-off and I just threw Mayo in there lol

ozguy3825 · Jul 4, 2012

aussiemjfreak said:
Courtney Lee is a bit of a forgotten player too.. Could help someone like the Bulls as a spark and instant offense off the bench playing at the 2! Shannon Brown has been lost among the big names too!

Shannon Brown is 1 player i loved in LA, would love to see him get a starting spot somewhere. His improved shooting and hops would be nice alongside a good PG. Courtney Lee is another that had a good season then goes off everyones radar.

drobfan8 · Jul 4, 2012

aussiemjfreak said:
Why!?!? They are actually both really similar in a lot of ways. DWill gets more dimes but thats about it. They have both developed Long Range game in recent seasons, Rose can get to the basket a lot more and better the DWill...... Yes Im a die hard Bulls fan, but Im not willing to say Rose is miles ahead of Dwill, but when someone says DWIll over Rose in a heartbeat, with no reason it makes me wonder why................

I agree in a way, I put Deron in front, JUST. Rose has an awesome defensive unit behind him which helps kick start his offense. You could argue both sides until you're blue in the face. Not much between either really.

I just did'nt agree with Norm saying why everyone is rushing to play with D. Will. The fact he's gone to the Nets also says to me he's matured a bit since he demanded to leave Utah which also cost one of the best coaches of all time his job.

A_Iverson_I · Jul 4, 2012

Marshon Brooks is god said:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...3/reggie-evans-clippers-nets-trade/index.html

Perfect fit for them if it all comes together, Reggie is a workhorse.

Wow... Nets have been busy! Damn!!

ozballer23 said:
Lopez has dodgy knees, max deal would be a huge mistake!

He doesn't have dodgy knees, he broke his foot and hurt his ankle.

A_Iverson_I · Jul 4, 2012

UPDATE: Reports indicate that Brandon Roy has already met with Minnesota, Dallas and Golden State -- and Chicago and Indiana are also interested -- but the AP is reporting that Cleveland may very well now be in the mix as well.
According to the report, no visit has been scheduled as of yet, as there have only been preliminary discussions.

A_Iverson_I · Jul 4, 2012

Agent Tolga Tugsavul is talking with teams in the NBA and Europe regarding his client, Ersan Ilyasova. According to HoopsHype, there is a "big offer" on the table from a team in Europe and the Milwaukee Bucks forward is "seriously considering accepting" it.
According to the report, a decision could be made soon.
Brooklyn, Toronto and the Bucks were the known teams after Ilyasova. Brooklyn is no longer an option after all their moves the last two days. Milwaukee has the edge as they can pay him the most money.

I really hope he stays in the NBA, had such a good season last year.

Harsha_12 · Jul 4, 2012

Roy To Cleveland?

Harsha_12 · Jul 4, 2012

Marc Stein â€@ESPNSteinLine
Word is Rudy Fernandez is 9 million Euros over the next three seasons to return to Spain with Real Madrid. Goodbye, NBA

lowndes8 · Jul 5, 2012

Eric Gordon To The Suns

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/04/report-suns-gordon-agree-on-deal/

surely Hornets will do a sign and trade, clearly he doesn't want to be there

FabFiveFan · Jul 5, 2012

Harsha_12 said:
Roy To Cleveland?

On both sides...WHY? Firstly, why would Roy go there? Cleveland is not a contender, and not in a position to offer huge dollars. Secondly, why would Cleveland want to sign Roy? They are rebuilding, and I would have thought that providing their young players with the most playing time they can would have been their preference. I would have thought that Roy would have wanted to at least go to a Playoff's bound team such as Chicago or Indiana, or maybe Minnesota or Golden State (perhaps playoff bound for these last two), and the way Dallas is going, they wont be a playoff team next season.

lowndes8 said:
Eric Gordon To The Suns

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/04/report-suns-gordon-agree-on-deal/

surely Hornets will do a sign and trade, clearly he doesn't want to be there

As I've mentioned previously, in order to have a $$ amount for the Hornets to match, Gordon at least has to go through the process of signing an offer contract from another team, and of course he has to say all the right things to not come across as a heartless "just in it for the money" type of guy, but he has known all along that NOH were very likely going to match any offer, and NOH pretty much knew that this $$ amount was going to be the amount they would have to deal with, so there will be no surprises on July 11 when NOH match the offer and Gordon does his press conference saying "how happy he is to be resigned by NOH", he will thank the Suns "for their professionalism throughout the process", "top rate organisation" blah blah blah, but at the end of the day he will be a backcourt team mate of Austin Rivers next season, as well as Anthony Davis of course, making a future big 3 in NO still possible.

This exact same situation is playing out in Indiana with Hibbert, with Trailblazers playing the role of "setting the bar", though the difference is Gordon still has "potential superstar" in his resume, whereas Hibbert is simply still improving, but the expectations are different. One key difference though is the lack of "quality" big men in the NBA, so Hibbert automatically comes at a premium, and realistically he is at the top of the 2nd tier of Centre's in the NBA, and as a result commands somewhere around the maximum for his 2nd contract (ie coming off his Rookie Contract).

WoobieZarz · Jul 5, 2012

Looks like Kidd wants to stay in Dallas now.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mave...oon?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Jason Kidd won't be playing ball with Deron Williams next season. Now he's focused on getting a deal done to finish out his career with the Dallas Mavericks.

"Iâ€™ve always loved playing with Dallas and Iâ€™d love to finish my career there," Kidd said Wednesday. "So hopefully (agent) Jeff (Schwartz) and (Mavs owner Mark) Cuban can get something done."

ozguy3825 · Jul 5, 2012

Roy is another i'd love to see in LA. If his knee isnt that great he would be a great addition to the bench helping Kobe lessen his minutes while providing a good back up.

ozballer23 · Jul 5, 2012

Nash is going to the Lakers via sign and trade! Not sure of details yet.

ozballer23 · Jul 5, 2012

3 yrs at 25 mill. Nash also said on ESPN he will try to recruit grant hill to join him at the lakers.

ozballer23 · Jul 5, 2012

In an unforeseen twist that could thrust the Los Angeles Lakers straight back into title contention, two-time NBA MVP Steve Nash has successfully negotiated a sign-and-trade deal from the Phoenix Suns to the Los Angeles Lakers that will team him up with Kobe Bryant, according to sources with knowledge of the deal. ESPN.com
LOS ANGELES LAKERS, PHOENIX SUNS, FREE AGENCY, TRADE, STEVE NASH
Sources told ESPN.com that the Nash, with the New York Knicks also pressing hard to complete a simiilar sign-and-trade deal, was swayed to join the Lakers after a determined push from Bryant and because the move not only keeps him in the title hunt but will allow Nash to stay in close proximity to his three children in Phoenix. ESPN.com
LOS ANGELES LAKERS, PHOENIX SUNS, FREE AGENCY, TRADE, KOBE BRYANT, STEVE NASH
Nash will receive a three-year deal in excess of $25 million, sources said, because the Suns ultimately agreed to sign-and-trade him to the Lakers, who can absorb Nash via the trade exception they created by dealing Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks in December. ESPN.com

Matt26 · Jul 5, 2012

Wow.....Nash to the Lakers....unreal!

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