I've had enough of this mob There total disregard for collectors and the hobby not to mention there cutting out internet stores is the last straw.
They continually change product, lie, don't deliver products on time, shortchange collectors on boxes and redemptions, don't have any sort of decent customer service, bring out more and more product and push the higher end of the market constantly and constantly disapoint collectors here.
I understand that busting boxes is taking a chance but with upper deck unless you buy the high end you just get screwed mostly and even then they are ruining their high end with player selection.
Their monopoly of the market will get no support by me and i hope a lot of collectors also vote with their wallets as well.
From now on only sourcing of non UD products. Lets hope topps gets HUGE and takes them over one day and rights the wrongs currently being done in the hobby.
This Fleer fiasco was the last straw. Such a let down and outright trickery!
yep fully with you on this one chad. busted mant a ud box and had one or 2 decent breaks. the fleer job they did in one perspective was great. they marketed the sh*t out of it to make it really good.
I gave up on UD boxes a few years back when I busted some UD Glass and got shafted. Upper Deck is really "Hit or Shit".
I want to take it one further and say that UD is banned from being mentioned on this internet site. If they don't want to sell their products on the internet (where else are we supposed to buy their shitty product?) then we won't even mention them. I'll think of some really nice word replacement for them - ie if someone types Upper Deck i'll have the system replace it with "Shitty Deck" Suggestions are welcome!
how about we as a group send them an online petition/email stating all 400 members are not going to be buying there boxes because of this and the fact that there products and customer service is totally unacceptable.
Even though my letter most likely will NOT be getting a response, it made me feel a hell of a lot better! I propose everybody have a go at writing a letter!
Even though my letter most likely will NOT be getting a response, it made me feel a hell of a lot better! I propose everybody have a go at writing a letter!
I've already been in contact with Chris Carlin and as far as fleer is we are basically screwed. He is aware with most of the problems but they are all just passed along. Too many chiefs, not enough indians.
Well, i just wanted to know UD's solution that can be made to ban internet sites sales???
They can't virtually open shops across the world, where Philippines, Hong Kong and Australia, that the cards collectors are too far from the states..and big volume of cards are attracting..
This is also why it's so tragic for the hobby that Fleer went broke....UD have no respect for collectors. At least Fleer appeared to put the collectors first sometimes!!
I've had enough of this mob There total disregard for collectors and the hobby not to mention there cutting out internet stores is the last straw.
They continually change product, lie, don't deliver products on time, shortchange collectors on boxes and redemptions, don't have any sort of decent customer service, bring out more and more product and push the higher end of the market constantly and constantly disapoint collectors here.
I understand that busting boxes is taking a chance but with upper deck unless you buy the high end you just get screwed mostly and even then they are ruining their high end with player selection.
Their monopoly of the market will get no support by me and i hope a lot of collectors also vote with their wallets as well.
From now on only sourcing of non UD products. Lets hope topps gets HUGE and takes them over one day and rights the wrongs currently being done in the hobby.
This Fleer fiasco was the last straw. Such a let down and outright trickery!
Not to be the one to fly the flag for UD, but they do have a few features that other brands don't have, like on-card autos, and they do have a great stable of UD spokesmen.
But yeah, definitely will shy away from UD boxes/packs when there's a comparable brand around.
I want to take it one further and say that UD is banned from being mentioned on this internet site. If they don't want to sell their products on the internet (where else are we supposed to buy their shitty product?) then we won't even mention them. I'll think of some really nice word replacement for them - ie if someone types Upper Deck i'll have the system replace it with "Shitty Deck" Suggestions are welcome!