pullymeister is your ebay name right? the card is exactly the same ud hologram that z-bayer sold you on 16 may does not take a genious to look at past feedback this card is fake, stop messing people around on here.
wow buddy nice slander u certainly know how to cause a shit fight on hear well done i take my hat of to u for being an arsehole ! u have ur option and i have mine ! not to mention i just met up with a member of this forum who is well respected and has many friends here and he has seen the card today and held it in his hands and inspected it himself u will see what he has to say about it when he comes on later tonight shall we
wow buddy nice slander u certainly know how to cause a s*** fight on hear well done i take my hat of to u for being an arsehole ! u have ur option and i have mine ! not to mention i just met up with a member of this forum who is well respected and has many friends here and he has seen the card today and held it in his hands and inspected it himself u will see what he has to say about it when he comes on later tonight shall we
Let's take it easy with the name calling mate, I understand you are frustrated with the accusations, but name calling isn't necessary. Let's keep it clean!
Yeah look, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but if this means protecting someone from buying a fraudulent item, I'll do it. The mods here will do what they need to do if I'm wrong, and I'll take that on the chin, etc.
BUT...
Firstly, #57 Fleer 86-87 IS Jordan's TRUE rookie card, any collector will tell you that. I won't go into the story on the Star cards, etc.
Fair enough your "reason" that when you sold for near $10k the buyer "bid by accident", cos that's what you do with $10k, you bid by accident, but why not take the 2nd chance offer, or third chance, etc? Anyone who bid on that auction you could have sold it to, unless you knew them of course, and didnt want to go through with the sale, lol.
What I was referring to, re: the graded cards, is you apparently were going to submit this card months ago to Beckett for a grade. I'm guessing that never happened?
Do you have the email from Upper Deck to state this card's authenticity? The holograms don't result too successful. If Jason's correct above, and you bough this from z-bayer, you've definitely been had, and if you know this, to come here and try to make fools outta us, that's just wrong.
Again, I'm sorry IF I am wrong, but this whole "story" is as dodgey as they come. Nothing you've said, or you're mate has said, has convinced us this card as being legit.
Beckett don't have this card listed, going by the image you posted above. It states that there's 1 card in the checklist, that being the buy-back of the autographed 86-87 Fleer #57 Rookie of MJ which is numbered /23.
if only i had of known some1 like u would bag my card i never would have bothered putting it on this forum to show fellow collectors what i have ! it people like u that make this upsetting instead of enjoyable
pullymeister is your ebay name right? the card is exactly the same ud hologram that z-bayer sold you on 16 may does not take a genious to look at past feedback this card is fake, stop messing people around on here.
Let's take it easy with the name calling mate, I understand you are frustrated with the accusations, but name calling isn't necessary. Let's keep it clean!
sorry i just am extemly frustrated by all of this rubbish im sorry i even put it up on here in the first place ! im more than happy for u to kick me off this site all together if this is how people treat eachother
sorry i just am extemly frustrated by all of this rubbish im sorry i even put it up on here in the first place ! im more than happy for u to kick me off this site all together if this is how people treat eachother
The problem is there is so much BS in relation to high end Jordan cards at the moment that people are very suspicious of stories like this.
Im going to shut down this thread and have a look into this a bit more. I have a few people who can help verify hologram numbers so ill see what they can find.
Ok everyone, i have been doing a bit of digging and I have spoken to a couple of people and this is the conclusion I have come to.
Topgun1983 has this card which I believe is real (pending verification of the hologram - I shot an email to an upperdeck contact I have to verify).
This card was purchased on ebay (confirmed by Topgun1983) from the seller aus-sports-2000 on May 17 whom I have contacted to confirm that this is the same card. The detailed info about this card has just become unavailable in the completed listings due to the time thats since passed however a member here posted that it was sold for $919 which im sure the seller will confirm/deny.
Topgun1983 wants to sell it and gets a ridiculous offer/BIN for $9000+ which he feels is the value of the card. Its clear that the buyer of this card had no intentions to purchase this, but to clearly set a new price benchmark for potential future sales. The worst they can get is an NPB mark against their name.
If there have been subsequent offers of 6-7000 im sure a sale would have gone through.
Topgun1983 thinks he may be able to get close to this again hence the thread here stating the BV is $10,000. With no bites and a lot of commentary about the high value put on this card, this leads people to thinking its a scam and Topgun1983 is having us on.
As it stands this card is now on ebay for a BIN for $4650 or there abouts and with a starting bid of $2000 (no present bids).
This new member has shown off his collection to a person on here who i know is a stand up member I can trust so I dont believe this card is fake, just a case of someone very very keen to sell, getting screwed around a bit through ebay and hoping to get the highest amount possible for the card.
I may be wrong but I dont think im too far from the truth.
There are a lot of people here who were initally sceptical (me included) but i think this may have been a case of a new member getting a bit excited over potentially making a fair bit of cash.
Just had a response from the ebay seller and they have confirmed that the price this was purchased for was very close to what I mentioned above. The seller also claims they know of another one of this exact card (buyback not a camp auto) which was pulled so its likely that its not a 1/1 though probably very low numbered id say maybe 5-10 max copies.