Do any of your posts not involve whinging of some sort????
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/card-discussions/29227-what-waste.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/heated-discussions/29229-rookie-cards-why-so-expensive.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/heated-discussions/29843-other-card-forum.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/card-discussions/30244-expensive-hobby.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/heated-discussions/30270-luxury-car-tax.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/foru...434-printing-plates-whats-big-effin-deal.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/heated-discussions/26976-terrible-packaging.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/heated-discussions/27149-unsolicited-pms.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/card-discussions/27828-whats-up-card.html
http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/forum/heated-discussions/27411-more-damaged-goods.html
Thats just a couple from your last 2 pages of Started threads I find it quite amusing.
Maybe we can open up a Sticky and call it Alistair - What grinds My Gears..... ala Family Guy.
I'm impressed...you've put in quite a bit of work there...well done!!!
Na took less than 2 minutes...goto public profile...click threads started by user and boom there they are ...and alot of em ....I only went through 3 pages... im sure theres plenty more lol
Don't talk down your effort....always exaggerate!!!
It's called provoking some discussion
The LCT bracket was from $51,826 and 35% GST/LCT (Luxury Car Tax) applies on any balance in the previous budget. Not a big jump. Mercedes only has two models which will come to under $57,000 brand new, the A and B class which were already priced in for lower end buyers and was part of their strategy in expanding their target market.
I don't see what the problem is with charging a LCT on an expensive car. Its the consumer's choice to purchase a car over $50,000 and if they can think of splurging, then the LCT shouldn't be an issue.
Now I have a severe dislike for Rudd and his Labor government, but I'd like to keep this particular discussion to the luxury car tax rather than their overall performance.
Now can someone tell me what the **** this is all about??
Is it nothing more than a token policy for "battlers" and "working families" to think that Rudd and co. are going in to bat for them?? Give me a break. There are so many flaws with this policy.
1) The government's definition of a "luxury car" is one that is priced at $57k or over.
I don't know if this will change, but what made them arrive at that particular number? I was walking past a Mercedes dealership on my way to work yesterday and was checking out the pice tags on the window of each car. The higher end cars were $90k+ and quite obviously "luxury" whatever way you wanted to look at it. However there were a LOT of cars priced between $45k and $56k which makes me wonder how you can own a really nice looking Mercedes and not have it classed as a "luxury car"?
On the other hand, my dad used to own a Ford Territory, though I actually think it was leased through his company. Depending on which model you choose, some of those things can be priced well over $60k. So a Mercedes is not luxury, but a Ford is? Come on...
2) You are not necessarily "wealthy" because you own a nice car!
Why should luxury car owners be slugged extra simply because they prioritise cars in their life? They might have an average job, average house in the suburbs but REALLY love cars and have therefore saved a lot of money to buy their dream ride. It's not something I'd do and you can argue people like that have their priorities mixed up, but who is the government to pigeonhole people that own luxury cars in to being "wealthy"?
On another note (while still being relevant), it's like the private school system. While the majority of students come from wealthier backgrounds, quite a few don't. Their parents have just worked hard and sacrificed a LOT more for their children's education. It's a similar principle. While an investment in the future of your family is a lot different from a car, a lot of people have made sacrifices and saved money to indulge on what is important to them without being "wealthy".
I just think it's a pathetic, token tax to window dress a Robin Hood budget
EDIT: and FWIW, I don't even own a car!
Agree with point 1. If you wanted a people mover you need to spend more and it will get into that range. So, the tax should only be for sedans, and a higher level for say 4WD and People movers, etc etc.
The second point I am not too sure about. If you are going to spend on something that people in you salary range usually cannot afford, then it is considered a luxury.
Its like people on welfare, they go and spend their money buying $250 Air Jordans. WTF!
Whatever it is, it is still considered a luxury so it should be taxed that way.
Just like cards, I save up to buy. I spend a lot, it is a luxury for me. If it gets taxed that way I understand, but it just means I do not spend on that as much.
That is what the tax is for - to curd people's spending. If you cannot really afford it, then do not buy it. If you can really afford it, then complain about the tax, but you will still buy it in the end.
Agree with your points, however I thought the luxury car tax was aimed at the majority of high end cars that were imported to assist the aussie Auto market and also reduce ppls spending and curb inflation.. Perhaps a further tax hike on imports??
Does the $57k tax threshold apply to NEW cars only or used cars?
Eg. if I was good "friends" with a car dealer and he sold me a used Mercedes SLK for $50k and I paid him another $50k under the table, how would it be taxed? Would it be taxed on the sale value of $50k or do they have a table that classes and evaluates each vehicle on the market?
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