Leaving negative feedback without repercussion

anakinleo · Nov 5, 2010

Hi All

The story is that I bought a card of a guy from Germany. Did the normal thing of setting up a thread, both agreed to the thread and of course I made payment. The card itself is only worth about $4 so I did not hesitate to pay upfront even though the seller had low feedback rating (10 positive feedback). Of course after a month later, the card has not arrived and the seller is not responding. What can I do????
I was thinking of leaving a negative feedback on the seller so that I can warn everyne else not to buy from him.... but had second thought because in retaliation he can leave me a negative feedback to me.

Please advise. Thanks

kenny3011 · Nov 5, 2010

Id probably wait it out since its from Germany, had a couple of cards take a bit longer than a month to get to me from the US.

But if he does retaliate the mods should remove it if it was in retaliation.

greencardy · Nov 5, 2010

I would wait too. I recently got a card from Germany and it took over a month to get here.

anakinleo · Nov 5, 2010

kenny3011 said:
Id probably wait it out since its from Germany, had a couple of cards take a bit longer than a month to get to me from the US.

But if he does retaliate the mods should remove it if it was in retaliation.

Thanks Kenny, I do not mind waiting for another 2 or 3 more weeks. Hopefully, I can get some confirmation from the moderators that such retaliation feedback will be removed. Cheers Alex

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greencardy said:
I would wait too. I recently got a card from Germany and it took over a month to get here.

Thanks for advice, I think I will hold it out for another 2 to 3 weeks. Cheers Alex

Billyhoyle · Nov 5, 2010

yep admin will remove retaliatory feedback with good reason

anakinleo · Nov 5, 2010

Billyhoyle said:
yep admin will remove retaliatory feedback with good reason

Thanks for the confirmation. Will wait out a couple more weeks before leaving any negative feedback. Cheers Alex

OutlawNinja · Nov 5, 2010

Alot of international mail is taking a very long time to get through of late.
I have had several from the US take 4 weeks to get to me.

w4nted · Nov 5, 2010

Have you had communication with him???

Negative feedback should definitely be left if it warrants it. Dont be afraid of retaliatory feedback... it would be removed. Its important that appropriate feedback is left because it not only warns others, but makes it clear for the trader involved that the site takes the rules seriously. However, in this case, being international, there are obviously factors involved such as airmail, customs etc etc... i guess it can take time. Im sure others from here will be able to indicate whats a reasonable amount of time coming from Germany.

1967Sharks · Nov 5, 2010

Low feedback sends first for a reason, you only have yourself to blame. Surely retaliatory feedback will be removed by mods though.

khouzza · Nov 5, 2010

i recently waited 6 weeks for a card from Germany, this was on ebay though, the guy took a while to get back to my msgs, i held out though and eventually he got back to me. it was aussie cutoms that held the parcel, so i guess in my opinion give them the benefit of the doubt to a certain degree, but if your not getting a response you gotta draw the line somewhere. from recent experience packages are taking longer than usual out of all parts of europe though. hope that bit of info helps

w4nted · Nov 5, 2010

ALthough in fairness, if the trader had 10 positive, then he meets the minimum requirement, so really didnt have to send first.

1967Sharks · Nov 5, 2010

I thought min feedback was 30

BruzDB · Nov 6, 2010

1967Sharks said:
I thought min feedback was 30

OzCardTrader Rules & FAQ

a) Members with less than 10 feedback on OzCardTrader MUST SEND FIRST unless the person can provide references from other trading websites and/or eBay with trading card history to the satisfaction of the member they are trading with.

anakinleo · Nov 6, 2010

OutlawNinja said:
Alot of international mail is taking a very long time to get through of late.
I have had several from the US take 4 weeks to get to me.

Yes, I would agree with you. Mails from overseas are taking a bit longer to receive. Had one from the UK recently, taking just under a month to receive. It never took that long a few years ago. I suppose time has changed.

hairyangryfella · Nov 6, 2010

I traded for a Tag Team from Germany. It never arrived. I would not do a trade to there ever again unless they send registered

anakinleo · Nov 6, 2010

w4nted said:
Have you had communication with him???

Negative feedback should definitely be left if it warrants it. Dont be afraid of retaliatory feedback... it would be removed. Its important that appropriate feedback is left because it not only warns others, but makes it clear for the trader involved that the site takes the rules seriously. However, in this case, being international, there are obviously factors involved such as airmail, customs etc etc... i guess it can take time. Im sure others from here will be able to indicate whats a reasonable amount of time coming from Germany.

Yes, agree with you completely. The whole idea is to make sure that the rules of the site are followed and a strong warning to deal wit him. Thanks Alex

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hairyangryfella said:
I traded for a Tag Team from Germany. It never arrived. I would not do a trade to there ever again unless they send registered

Did you leave a negative feedback for him??? Or did he get away scot-free???

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w4nted said:
ALthough in fairness, if the trader had 10 positive, then he meets the minimum requirement, so really didnt have to send first.

Yes, he did have 10 positive feedback but that is where he will start to play up !!!!!

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1967Sharks said:
I thought min feedback was 30

It is 10.... but maybe that is not enough.

Wheeldude · Nov 6, 2010

w4nted said:
Have you had communication with him???

Negative feedback should definitely be left if it warrants it. Dont be afraid of retaliatory feedback... it would be removed. Its important that appropriate feedback is left because it not only warns others, but makes it clear for the trader involved that the site takes the rules seriously. However, in this case, being international, there are obviously factors involved such as airmail, customs etc etc... i guess it can take time. Im sure others from here will be able to indicate whats a reasonable amount of time coming from Germany.

Yeah Germany's a long long way away...I'm sure it'll pop up when you least expect it...I'd give him the benefit of the doubt until the end of the month.

Yeah if he was shady then I'd want to know about it too so if you have to just do it! We're fair we'll listen to your case if he leaves you neg feedback.

Quicksilver · Nov 6, 2010

OutlawNinja said:
Alot of international mail is taking a very long time to get through of late.
I have had several from the US take 4 weeks to get to me.

^^ I'm with OutlawNinja i've had parcels taking a lot longer than usual to arrive.

brentus777 · Nov 16, 2010

pretty sure he wouldnt risk getting booted off the site for $4?

Wheeldude · Nov 16, 2010

A couple of questions which are kind of off topic but still regarding feedback and deals:

1. If a deal has been completed and no feedback has been left even though you have left some can you get compensationary feedback. Sounds dumb but the person I did a deal with hasn't been on for 2 weeks since I sent him his cards, I'm quite sure he got them...

2. Is there anyway to Complete a deal even though you didn't create the deal thread. I have a few of these which are technically complete, feedback has been left by both parties etc except that little detail. I don't want to look like the guy with 5 In Progress deals...doesn't look good.

Answers would be appreciated.

Cheers :v:

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