Fake flawless cards???

[Dz183]

Hey guys received a ruby jumbo flawless patch card of Damian Lillard today, and noticed the ruby font on the card was quite splotchy and a there was a little chipping, the seller had good feedback and seemed quite reputable, I heard rumours of fakes but thought I might do a little more research before I decide how to approach this, my home internet is down so i cannot post photos yet, any one know of any thing like this? In comparison to my other flawless cards it's quite noticeable

Thanks

 

[ozballer23]

Never heard about any fakes, but I know that the quality of these cards aren't the best. Pics would help.

 

[Ersk]

I think Panini kept a database of all their cards, so ask them if it is a fake.

 

[Dz183]

Cheers for the feedback guys I will post a pic when my net is back

 

[Matt26]

Never heard anywhere of any Flawless fakes.

 

[Fleer57]

Did some searching and found one that could be fake to me...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DAMIAN-LILLARD-2013-FLAWLESS-ROOKIE-RUBY-RED-GAME-WORN-JUMBO-PATCH-15-BLAZERS-/360791431078?_uhb=1&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item5400d857a6&nma=true&si=hcX3QpB7abJqa89Fkjv1cx29o88%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

When compared with:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2012-13-DAMIAN-LILLARD-PANINI-FLAWLESS-ROOKIE-JUMBO-PATCH-13-15-/321237019160?_uhb=1&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item4acb37ea18&nma=true&si=hcX3QpB7abJqa89Fkjv1cx29o88%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Besides the fact that they are both 13/15 (is this possible?), the first one looks a lot sharper and basically not like foil. It looks like the effect is printed on instead of foiled/embossed. Also there are very subtle differences to the font on the "RC" and the position of the numbering.

I got photoshop out and you can see side by side that they are quite different. I increased the exposure to match the lighting, and you can see the "real" one is generally thicker and more foiled looking, and the other looks printed/copied. What do you guys reckon?

 

[silvertapoutstar]

But there 2 different versions arnt they?
I don't think there fake imo

 

[Verse1]

Did some searching and found one that could be fake to me...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DAMIAN-LILLARD-2013-FLAWLESS-ROOKIE-RUBY-RED-GAME-WORN-JUMBO-PATCH-15-BLAZERS-/360791431078?_uhb=1&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item5400d857a6&nma=true&si=hcX3QpB7abJqa89Fkjv1cx29o88%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

When compared with:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2012-13-DAMIAN-LILLARD-PANINI-FLAWLESS-ROOKIE-JUMBO-PATCH-13-15-/321237019160?_uhb=1&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item4acb37ea18&nma=true&si=hcX3QpB7abJqa89Fkjv1cx29o88%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Besides the fact that they are both 13/15 (is this possible?), the first one looks a lot sharper and basically not like foil. It looks like the effect is printed on instead of foiled/embossed. Also there are very subtle differences to the font on the "RC" and the position of the numbering.

I got photoshop out and you can see side by side that they are quite different. I increased the exposure to match the lighting, and you can see the "real" one is generally thicker and more foiled looking, and the other looks printed/copied. What do you guys reckon?

There's the 2 versions on Lillard as well as Irving, the variations being the ROY stamped.
As for them looking different its just the scanner

 

[drob50]

But there 2 different versions arnt they?
I don't think there fake imo

What he said!

 

[Dz183]

The 13/15 on the left is mine, the ink on the font looks as though it has filled the gaps on some letters, the "D" in the "Damian" and the Lillard look filled in, you cannot really see it in the photo, but it's obvious in hand

 

[Dz183]

You can also see on the "RC" symbol the edges are a bit rough, could just be me being picky, I had a silver jumbo that looked a lot sharper though, different player though

 

[silvertapoutstar]

I think let's all end this and say at the moment there are NOT any fake ones out there lol

 

[Dz183]

Just curious if any one pulled any cards from flawless with rough font?

 

[Fleer57]

The 13/15 on the left is mine, the ink on the font looks as though it has filled the gaps on some letters, the "D" in the "Damian" and the Lillard look filled in, you cannot really see it in the photo, but it's obvious in hand

if the one on the left is yours then i cant see any problem, i was thinking the one on the right the lettering looked a little "thin".

 

[Fleer57]

Just curious if any one pulled any cards from flawless with rough font?

take an actual close up photo of your card when you can..

 

[Dz183]

Will do as soon as my net is back up, thanks for feedback guys

 

[West Oz Cards]

Just curious if any one pulled any cards from flawless with rough font?

Yes, I did on #5/5 Lillard ROY jumbo patch that I just sold. It had really splotchy embossing, but its a legit card as i watched it pulled live on mojobreak.
The name and ROY embossing and down the RHS of the window was definately NOT flawless!!! but hey, thats how it came, and I definately wasnt sending it back to Panini as a defective card!!! lol

 

[Dz183]

That's awesome news, seeing this makes me feel a lot better By the way that is a sick patch, tried bidding on another this morning but the auction went crazy

Thanks

 

[A_Iverson_I]

Not to mention the pics on the cards are different lol