Card Grading

Dr Grange · May 15, 2012

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE GUY WHO WAS OPENING UP A CARD GRADING COMPANY NEAR BEVERLY HILLS ANYBODY KNOW??????

shane_sharks · May 16, 2012

there is someone who owns a shop down there that sells cards

hobo · May 16, 2012

Dr Grange said:
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE GUY WHO WAS OPENING UP A CARD GRADING COMPANY NEAR BEVERLY HILLS ANYBODY KNOW??????

WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING AT US????????

Anyway here's a link to his website, has a promo running for May as well. 1 free grading:

http://www.cardgradingaustralia.com/#!news

Cheers
Ross

ace1979 · May 16, 2012

LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!!!!! AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

Dr Grange · May 16, 2012

Thanks for the info. I'm not shouting just wondering because he was going to revolutionise the card industry in Australia

Thanks to a member I've been informed he's banned from this site. That explains why he is no longer selling him self on this site.

WoobieZarz · May 16, 2012

This is really good for the Australian Market!!

Anyone know what sort of premium these guys' grades could add to our cards? Obviously compared to overseas' Graders, when dealing with overseas' buyers/traders, they'd not be as competitive as those such as PSA/BGS, etc, but at home, these guys could really boost the value of our cards when dealing with fellow Aussies!

EDIT:
Why are they banned? Obviously for a reason, but this might deter us from using them, I'd imagine. Just curious...

hobo · May 16, 2012

Sorry I have a problem....well many problems....

And CAPS LOCK posts and emails are one of them.....

Apart from protecting a valuable card does anyone see any value in grading NRL cards?

Cheers
Ross

hobo · May 16, 2012

Taz_Cardz said:
This is really good for the Australian Market!!

Anyone know what sort of premium these guys' grades could add to our cards? Obviously compared to overseas' Graders, when dealing with overseas' buyers/traders, they'd not be as competitive as those such as PSA/BGS, etc, but at home, these guys could really boost the value of our cards when dealing with fellow Aussies!

Or simply increase the cost by adding a layer of subjective bureaucracy...

Dr Grange · May 16, 2012

Apart from protecting a valuable card does anyone see any value in grading NRL cards?

Cheers
Ross[/quote]

I totally agree with Ross any REAL collector knows enough about the cards already & the only value to getting a card graded would be to the non collectors who are only in it for the MONEY.

MarkTomo · May 16, 2012

I agree with Hobo. The process of valuing cards is very subjective. I think they are the same as everything else. The card is only worth as much as someone else is prepared to pay for it.

graham · May 16, 2012

Dr Grange said:
Thanks to a member I've been informed he's banned from this site. That explains why he is no longer selling him self on this site.

As far as i'm aware their account is still active - they go by the name of bovalegallery.

ooneil · May 16, 2012

Taz_Cardz said:
This is really good for the Australian Market!!

Anyone know what sort of premium these guys' grades could add to our cards? Obviously compared to overseas' Graders, when dealing with overseas' buyers/traders, they'd not be as competitive as those such as PSA/BGS, etc, but at home, these guys could really boost the value of our cards when dealing with fellow Aussies!

When you say "our cards" you mean NBA right??

You need to realise that the NRL market is vastly different to the US card market where grading is engrained into the system. The US market has a completely different dynamic to ours.

Becketts and PSA can add value to your cards by having them graded however that is down to their reputation and the fact they have been around a long time. Would you get a better price for a Jordan Rookie graded by BGS or Card Grading Australia?

Nothing against these guys but they have no history in the industry in Australia, they have no experience or training in grading cards (as far as i know) and you have no idea how your cards are going to be treated when you send them.

Just because you can go and spend money on a card encaputalion machine does not automatically make you a card grader.

I personally would not get any of my NRL cards graded. Just my thoughts.

WoobieZarz · May 16, 2012

No, I mean cards in general. Sports, TV/Movies, Comic, etc, etc. Our cards as in our own cards, so your cards, my cards, bob's cards, etc...

Appreciate your comments, and I understand everything you're saying, I'm simply saying that this could be good for our hobby in Australia. If they're reputable enough for people to acknowledge a grade of theirs, then our fellow Aussie collectors might have another option for getting cards graded. I'm not sure, but Australia doesnt have a card grader do we?

Let's take NRL as an example, if these guys build enough reputation up, and people start getting their prized cards graded with them, they have the potential to increase the market value of said cards. Obviously the only way to build a reputation is with experience, and people only build experience with customers (in this industry). It'd be a bit like your magazine. If no one bought it, you'd not be able to build that reputation.

The Mad Hatter · May 16, 2012

A card's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

And you can't grade/price/value sentimenality...if they did, my ratty old 1982 NSWRL Simon Booth card would be worth $1,000,000. Why? Cause it's the first footy card I ever got out of a pack of cards as stuffed the bubblegum in to my five year old gob

WoobieZarz · May 16, 2012

The Mad Hatter said:
A card's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

And you can't grade/price/value sentimenality...if they did, my ratty old 1982 NSWRL Simon Booth card would be worth $1,000,000. Why? Cause it's the first footy card I ever got out of a pack of cards as stuffed the bubblegum in to my five year old gob

Couldnt agree more with you, but I'm not sure how relevant that is to having cards graded...

A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it (if you can haggle a dealer, lol), but if it's got less Kms, has a log book, and is in better nick than another variant surely that would increase its value...

Mint condition has so many meanings in the card collecting hobby. If you've got it in writing that says it's pristine, you know it cannot degrade in condition, and surely must hold a better value than one ungraded?

ooneil · May 16, 2012

Taz_Cardz said:
Mint condition has so many meanings in the card collecting hobby. If you've got it in writing that says it's pristine, you know it cannot degrade in condition, and surely must hold a better value than one ungraded?

Yeah but your an NBA guy so the mindset is different.

While in the US a graded card is worth more than an ungraded card thats not the reality of it here. As an NRL guy i dont associate the value towards the grading - frankly a card that's been encapsulated would piss me off because i would want to get it out

The Mad Hatter said:
And you can't grade/price/value sentimenality...if they did, my ratty old 1982 NSWRL Simon Booth card would be worth $1,000,000. Why? Cause it's the first footy card I ever got out of a pack of cards as stuffed the bubblegum in to my five year old gob

Wow - you really remember the first card you ever pulled? Thats pretty cool Hatter.

sharkiefan0102 · May 16, 2012

I would have to agree with Owen. I can not see say a TP or FF being more valueable if graded to ungraded especially since all numbered to say 300. I can not see the point of paying say $10 for the grading as I dont believe it would make that bigger difference to the value

nino_013 · May 16, 2012

But wouldnt older, vintage AFL/NRL cards also command a premium if it was in better condition?

WoobieZarz · May 16, 2012

The mindset is different? We're a different breed is that it?

What about a signed guernsey then. If you get one signed at a game, and you buy one through the club with authenticity certificates, which do you think is worth more? The raw or "graded" one?

graham · May 16, 2012

But if the authenticity certificate comes from Joe Blows Authentication or the football club itself would make a difference.

Personally if a card is graded by a reputable company, then for someone searching for a graded or authenticated card it could command a premium. If its graded or slabbed by joe blows grading service then it won't command a premium.

Because Australian card collectors aren't used to grading services and don't know the difference between Joe Blows and PSA Or BGS then I doubt it would make a difference to price. In fact it could affect it negatively in that someone who puts all their cards in a folder won't want a card in a stupid plastic holder.

I'm sure that's the gist some are trying to put across here.

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