Bulls v Heat 2011 Playoffs Eastern Final Thread **SPOILERS INSIDE**

jimboiitmac said:

Where was the foul? My net has been slowed to dial-up so I can't watch videos. From the telly replay, Haslem was straight up, Bron swatted the ball and a bit of hand, but hand is part of the ball as per NBA rules isn't it?

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Looked to me like there was contact with the shooting hand, Hard to to tell on the iPhone so I could be wrong.

cjhsv said:

Yeah, I was only stirring. Like you said that block was clean as they come.

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haha fair enough... Lebron has some mad hops!

Onto the next round Lads!!!

gemini0928 said:

Dallas will be the last chance of Lebron haters this season to get satisfaction. After that I guess they'll have to wait for another year.

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Or the next 7 years.

Jaames said:

Looked to me like there was contact with the shooting hand, Hard to to tell on the iPhone so I could be wrong.

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Ah I thought there was a tiny bit at the end as well on the hand. Thought that was part of the ball though? Either way, probably too hard for the refs to see. If there was any on the replay, it was extremely small - so in live time would've looked like nothing.

Next year guys next year

aussiemjfreak said:

It was 2 players that got you through the 4th quarter of this game from what I can gather. Not a team.... I think if Miami share the load more they would be just about unbeatable and we may find that once they get some better role players/bench in and Miller and Haslem get back to full fitness... but team wise... They are a 2 man team MOST nights, just depends which 2....

Where exactly did I say that Chicago's self destruction wasn't because of Miami's play..? WHERE!?!?!?!

Of course it fkn was! You take the best player of any team and the league MVP out of the game and what's going to happen..? He can't lead his team, they self destruct. Funny that huh? Having said that though, if Rose had adapted better and had a little more consistent help things could have been a lot different.....

The NBA revolves around certain players and teams, that was the meaning behind my "rigged the last 10 years" comment... Having said that too, I don't think they would have cared either way with the ECF.

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Ian, I understood what you meant when you said they weren't a "team". Or at least I thought I knew where you were coming from. Yes I agree that Chicago is more balanced. What my point was though, is that a team is counted as how the entire team performs. So it doesn't matter if the Heat have a lot of high-level talent and no mid-level talent. Or if the Bulls are more balanced throughout. OVERALL the Heat won, and the Heat are a team, just like the Bulls that play 5 players on the court at a time and use reserves. So the Heat were the better team, maybe not the more balanced team, but the better team.

Also, it's kind of ironic that the Heat rode 2 superstars to win the game, and the Bulls lost because they had NO SUPERSTARS to ride except for Rose. It's happened all series long. In the 4th quarter the Heat clamp down on defense, and the Bulls don't have anyone other than Rose with offensive creativity so they lose. So in a way, the Bulls may be more balanced but clearly they need another star otherwise they are not going to be able to get it done.

You say the Heat are a "2 man team", and even with you ignoring the fact that Bosh has scored over 20 points in 3 of the 5 games, the Bulls have been exposed as a 1 man team - because other than Rose they get nothing of quality offensively. Apart from maybe Boozer exerting himself, which he only chooses to do 50% of the time.

In regards to the self-destruction comment, here's what you said:

Im still not sold on them being the Better team... Just so happens they played well while Chicago self destructed....

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You say "Just so happens they played well while Chicago self destructed" as if the Bulls just played extremely poorly and the Heat were lucky enough to capitalize on it. The way I see it the Heat MADE the Bulls play badly. If that's not what you meant than sorry, but when you read it, that's what it implies.

I don't wanna talk about this whole "rigging" thing. I think it's just ridiculous..

gemini0928 said:

Onto the next round Lads!!!

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Wait! I think we can still squeeze some life outta this one!

GarnettFan4Life said:

Wait! I think we can still squeeze some life outta this one!

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If Jimbo will keep on replying to everyone else's posts, it will be a while....

gemini0928 said:

If Jimbo will keep on replying to everyone else's posts, it will be a while....

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Hey man I'm like the only Heat fan who isn't either a) only on here once a week or b) not a real Heat fan, but a LeBron fan who has only been a Heat fan for this one year.

I can't let my team get verbally puked on like this. Hehe. Besides it's good procrastination and kind of fun

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How good was Zo in the presentation. Was I the only one who watched it?? If there were others, did you spot this??

Zo shakes Micky Arison's hand and Arison goes in for the hug with the other arm, but Zo wasn't intending to hug him, so Arison has to do the awkward retracting of the hand which he has already put out there. It was hilarious. This was just before Zo picked up the trophy and gave it to Arison.

That was disgraceful. Another young team like OKC that couldn't handle the pressure. Yes, the Heat hit amazing shots in the fourth, but the Bulls let themselves down. If they couldn't beat the Heat this year, they won't in the future either. The Heat have got it together in the first year with the three musketeer's and now there just going to go to the Finals each year until the end of the decade. The only team that will stop this to me now is a completely re-formatted Lakers with Dwight Howard in it.

Bulls deserved to loose, that last half of the 4th qtr was terrible effort.

On to next year. hopefully they can pick up a decent player to help Rose and Deng out in the starting five.

Cobretti said:

Bulls deserved to loose, that last half of the 4th qtr was terrible effort.

On to next year. hopefully they can pick up a decent player to help Rose and Deng out in the starting five.

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Yeah they are in desperate need of a scoring two-guard who can play defense. If they can get one that can create his own shot, and hold his own on defense. They will be right back here again challenging for a spot in the Finals.

Summation of the series.

Miami were too good. Maybe you can win it all with just three players?? I think for the majority of the season most people thought it wasnt possible, and solid team units such as Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Lakers would easily account for Miami come finals time. And yet here we are, and only Dallas stand between us knowing if three players is enough.

Miami's defence was amazingly consistent, and Chicago's was amazingly poor, particularly from the side that had the one of the stingiest defence's all year. They didn't counter Miami's ball movement well, and down the stretch in the last 3 or 4 games Lebron and Wade either kept hitting the shots, getting foul calls or both. On the other end of the court, Chicago went into it's shell when they needed to be aggressive and score. Four guys stood back with a look of "GO DERRICK!!!" on their faces. Rose has a huge career in front of him, no doubt about it, but he will need some help and Im not fully sold on if Carlos Boozer is the answer. It seems they can't get them both firing at the same time and perhaps the bulls will look back on the chance to grab Courtney Lee and think "What if??". Clearly, Chicago needed more options, theyll learn from that.

On the other side of the coin, Miami offence was always going to be their biggest asset and it showed, they have the players who can get it done when they need to. They always had an option. However, lets not kid ourselves, they have three players and a bunch of other guys who wear Heat uniforms and show up on game night. There were cameo appearances from Miller and Haslem in this series, but none of them have been enough to take away attention from the big three. In the fourth tonight, it was Lebron and Wade, even Bosh played the foil for them. The three point shots that Lebron hit tonight in the last two minutes, were the same shots he would have missed in Cleveland, so maybe he's showing the signs of maturity, and, scarily his level of talent has risen again. Wade's got aggressive after having a woeful three quarters, started hitting his shots, got some cheap calls (which generally happens when you take on the game) and those two guys final 3:14 changed the game, and ended the series in Chicago. It is possible to admire, respect and be a hater all at once. Believe me I know

In the end, the only difference was the three guys who joined Miami at the start of the year. The three guys with unbelievable talent. The three guys who have united the NBA world in hatred of Miami. And the three guys who just might win the whole damn thing.

sktwentythree said:

That was disgraceful. Another young team like OKC that couldn't handle the pressure. Yes, the Heat hit amazing shots in the fourth, but the Bulls let themselves down. If they couldn't beat the Heat this year, they won't in the future either. The Heat have got it together in the first year with the three musketeer's and now there just going to go to the Finals each year until the end of the decade. The only team that will stop this to me now is a completely re-formatted Lakers with Dwight Howard in it.

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More likely see Dwight in a Nets uni than Lakers

sktwentythree said:

That was disgraceful. Another young team like OKC that couldn't handle the pressure. Yes, the Heat hit amazing shots in the fourth, but the Bulls let themselves down. If they couldn't beat the Heat this year, they won't in the future either. The Heat have got it together in the first year with the three musketeer's and now there just going to go to the Finals each year until the end of the decade. The only team that will stop this to me now is a completely re-formatted Lakers with Dwight Howard in it.

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So if the Lakers go and get Dwight next year will the get as much hate as the Heat??

Im so happy for the Heat, LeBron once again turning the game around, this is awesome

ooneil said:

So if the Lakers go and get Dwight next year will the get as much hate as the Heat??

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If DH12 flogs himself in public for three months leading up to it, then holds a live TV "THE DECISION" show, then yes Id expect so.

I'd like to see Dwight go to the Lakers, even though I'm not a Laker fan at all. And to whoever said if takes 3 great players to win a ring, yes you're right. 3 great players and then role players will give you a pretty good chance. Celtics won with Rondo and Perk and they were not great players. What I do like about what the heat have done, is it will make the other teams that want to win improve their teams. Get set for some big time moves next season. I'd like to see Chris Paul and Dwight team up, that would also be tough to stop.

midnight_show said:

If DH12 flogs himself in public for three months leading up to it, then holds a live TV "THE DECISION" show, then yes Id expect so.

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True - but im talking hate towards the Heat not LBJ specifically - the decision was the dumbest thing ever done.