Bogus reports on amount of cards produced.

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chadjaja

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• Jun 27, 2007

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Don't you love it when one person starts a rumour about how many of a particular card there is and people fail to see it as a rumour.

Take for instance this year press pass. Some autos are in red ink. Everyone is telling me that the Havlicek red ink is one of only /25. So can someone please explain to me after keeping track of sales and buyers etc that there has been 30+ already on eBay itself. And we all know there is life outside eBay so there is bound to be ones still sealed in boxes or pulled and sold/traded thru shops/shows etc that stay in PC's and never hit the secondary market again.

People still buy this bullshit though and command premium after premium for stuff based on what??

 

wolvesjr34

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• Jun 27, 2007

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Based on rumour and innuendo

Just thought I would answer your rhetorical question heehee

 

nenjabin

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• Jun 27, 2007

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Good question. I personally don;t know much about print runs if not printed on the card. And actually find it quite amazing how people find out things like adhunt's Lebron that says Serial #/100, but apparently only 25 were produced? Or the Gerald Green auto I bought off Cowboys when he suggested there probably wasn't the full #/99 suggested on the card in circulation. How does one really know?

 

Matt26

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• Jun 27, 2007

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Hahaha thats a classic...I love it when sellers use half truths and add their own spin to try and build up the price on the cards they are selling.

Especially when a card like Ultimate Signatures set are listed as SP. Ive seen some auctions saying that the card was SP to 10 or less....and at the same time there are more than 10 of them are on ebay.

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Matt

 

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• Jun 27, 2007

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chadjaja® said:

People still buy this bullshit though and command premium after premium for stuff based on what??

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Based on the fact that many people now like collecting cards not because they like the design, the brand, the player, the team etc., but because its rare and nobody else (in the case of 1/1) or very few other people will have one... Its seems to me that a lot of collectors now to brag about how they are the only one to have a certain card

 

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• Jun 27, 2007

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you might be confused chad, the normal PP legends red ink autos (name only) are definitely numbered to more than 25, however...

the inscriptions autos (name plus some inscription)

or in my case sans the bloody signature!



are definitely rarer than 25, with various numbers produced for each signer.

 

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chadjaja

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• Jun 27, 2007

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Nope not confused.

Havlicek only has the two variations. Both just the normal sig in blue and red.

The Red have been said to be over and over and over again by every seller mostly to be /25 which is utter crap.

 

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I'm not sure how much we can trust Beckett but according to the latest the Hondo's don't seem to have any sp print runs. And I think it says the Nance is /32 J.

 

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• Jun 27, 2007

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I'm with ya Chad.

Take the 04-05 UD Sweet Shot Signature Shots Autos..
None have numbering, and the Blue versions are "said" to be #/5....

I've only seen 1 (mine) and have seen only a SMALL (about 3) amount of the Whites, a bit more of the Reds, and plenty of base (Orange).

I wish Card Comp's. would either number them during production, or SAY there's only XXX amount of them, without being numbered.

I must add, that for me to pick up the Blue Sweet Shot, the seller was obviously none the wiser about the SP'd amount, as they failed to use it in their listing, and were probably asking themselves questions after I hit the BIN about 10 mins after it was listed...

 

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• Jun 27, 2007

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nenjabin said:

Good question. I personally don;t know much about print runs if not printed on the card. And actually find it quite amazing how people find out things like adhunt's Lebron that says Serial #/100, but apparently only 25 were produced? Or the Gerald Green auto I bought off Cowboys when he suggested there probably wasn't the full #/99 suggested on the card in circulation. How does one really know?

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yeah, you'd hope like in the case of my bron, beckett would actually get that from UD not from a rumour..

 

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• Jun 27, 2007

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See this a fair bit with the Gilbert Arenas 02-03 UD MVP ProSign auto. It actually lists in beckett for $15, but people still advertise them as SP auto's that are limited to 10! lol!

 

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• Jul 1, 2007

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And we have another with the 'FACT' of it being /25.......

http://cgi.ebay.com/JOHN-HAVLICEK-06-Legends-Auto-Autograph-RED-INK-25-OSU_W0QQitemZ140132469972QQihZ004QQcategoryZ149918QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

WoobieZarz

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• Jul 2, 2007

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That looks drastically cheap, $26 bucks.....

 

theflyinggerco

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• Jul 2, 2007

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It would be interesting to see what the sellers of these "rare" cards would say if you challenged them...

 

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• Jul 2, 2007

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chadjaja® said:

Nope not confused.

Havlicek only has the two variations. Both just the normal sig in blue and red.

The Red have been said to be over and over and over again by every seller mostly to be /25 which is utter crap.

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look at the brown auto in Style 52 even beckett says its /5 SP..............yet ive seen 12 on ebay so far....... hahahahahahha

 

TCAC

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• Jul 2, 2007

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That looks drastically cheap, $26 bucks.....

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wouldn't say that is commanding premiums whether it's in red, black, blue /100 or /25.

i think as a buyer you need to do your research to back up what is written in the sales descriptions.

 

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• Jul 2, 2007

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It is not just basketball cards either.

A few years back, I had two Jimmy Bartel Geelong draft pick sigs, numbered 37. Of course, after reporting this to Select, I was encouraged to return the product to them due to their 'oversight' and receive some replacements, several of which were VERY handy additions.

 

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• Jul 3, 2007

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The red ones were selling for up to $40US whilst the blue were around the $20US mark so yeah the red sell better. Seems though people have smartened up as the red pop up just as much these days as the blue.