Backs of cards: Much love for career/season stats?

MJD

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Promo cards for 2012 Champs arrived for me today. Don't think I've read any comments on the design for the card backs - but I'd have to say this is Select's best effort to date.

Certainly not much was required for improvement, but it's great to see the addition of a photo (albeit the same one that's on the front) and an attractive design. Now we just need the stats! I reckon no true sports trading card should be without them.

I'd love to see the card backs feature a stat grid similar to American sports cards, showing the number of games, tries, assists, goals, linebreaks, hit-ups, offloads etc. for each year of the player's career. If this is too much to ask, one simple line of stats for the previous season would do. Like some of the American sets, league leaders in different categories (top pointscorer, most offloads etc) could be denoted.

Given the rise in recent years of stat-orientated online fantasy football competitions and a greater focus of stats in the game - nobody referred to "try assists" 10 years ago - I reckon there could be a lot of interest amongst fans/collectors.

But I could be wrong. I'd be keen to know whether other collectors give two hoots what's on the back of cards. I guess card values aren't going to be effected and for a lot of people, it's all about the chase (cards). But I would happily pay an extra $30-$40 a box to have base cards with interesting, comprehensive player info on the back instead of the same old woffle.

For all of Dynamic's shortcomings, they included season stats, and I loved the inclusion of career stats on the 2004 Gold, Supporter Choice inserts, and Try Machine and 10 Year Career subsets.

In 12 years the only format change I've noticed on Select card backs has been the removal of date of birth. Has it been raised/answered before why Select doesn't bother with stats at all? Too much data entry? Would they have to pay the NRL extra for it?

Some members will likely respond that Select don't care what we want, will put in minimum efffort, and I should stop dreaming. But the inclusion of stat-focused cards in the upcoming release (300 games, top try scorers - which have 2011 try totals) has given me a whiff of hope.

Also, if another card company was to enter the market, this is one area where Select could really lift its game.
 
I also like the way the back of the cards look in this new series. Being a stats man myself i spend more time on the back of the card than the front.
 
Yeah, stats would be a huge improvement. Particularly given their write-ups on the back are nowhere near as interesting as the Dynamic ones used to be, either. They're just the same keywords used over and over again - blah is a hard-running, destructive powerhouse, etc.
 
i do like the promo cards i got, best select have done in years. I think the photo on the back makes a big difference :) (even though its the same photo as on the front). These commons will be great to get signed by the players due to the clear design on the front. Pretty much i cant fault this common set. I was expecting foil on the rookie standouts and try machine cards though.
 
They dont put foil on promos.
Bring back 88 and 89 where they had those lame captions. Classic.
I do miss when they had the 9 card puzzles on the back though. They are awesome.
 
They dont put foil on promos.
Bring back 88 and 89 where they had those lame captions. Classic.
I do miss when they had the 9 card puzzles on the back though. They are awesome.

There will never be anything better in the world ever than those captions.

The pinnacle of human achievement. They were great!!!
 
They were so boneheaded.
My personal fav was either the 91 Steve Edmed, supporting a lameass head-shot of him sitting on the sideline: "Big Steve caught in a pensive moment - when will he get on the field?''
Or the shot of Dean Pay getting smashed, or as the quote had it, "Big Deano getting payed back!".

I thought the puzzle-back cards worked really well for those 94-95 finals cards - a nice way of acknowledging the champs without having to fork out for a seperate set.
 
Promo cards for 2012 Champs arrived for me today. Don't think I've read any comments on the design for the card backs - but I'd have to say this is Select's best effort to date.

Certainly not much was required for improvement, but it's great to see the addition of a photo (albeit the same one that's on the front) and an attractive design. Now we just need the stats! I reckon no true sports trading card should be without them.

I'd love to see the card backs feature a stat grid similar to American sports cards, showing the number of games, tries, assists, goals, linebreaks, hit-ups, offloads etc. for each year of the player's career. If this is too much to ask, one simple line of stats for the previous season would do. Like some of the American sets, league leaders in different categories (top pointscorer, most offloads etc) could be denoted.

Given the rise in recent years of stat-orientated online fantasy football competitions and a greater focus of stats in the game - nobody referred to "try assists" 10 years ago - I reckon there could be a lot of interest amongst fans/collectors.

But I could be wrong. I'd be keen to know whether other collectors give two hoots what's on the back of cards. I guess card values aren't going to be effected and for a lot of people, it's all about the chase (cards). But I would happily pay an extra $30-$40 a box to have base cards with interesting, comprehensive player info on the back instead of the same old woffle.

For all of Dynamic's shortcomings, they included season stats, and I loved the inclusion of career stats on the 2004 Gold, Supporter Choice inserts, and Try Machine and 10 Year Career subsets.

In 12 years the only format change I've noticed on Select card backs has been the removal of date of birth. Has it been raised/answered before why Select doesn't bother with stats at all? Too much data entry? Would they have to pay the NRL extra for it?

Some members will likely respond that Select don't care what we want, will put in minimum efffort, and I should stop dreaming. But the inclusion of stat-focused cards in the upcoming release (300 games, top try scorers - which have 2011 try totals) has given me a whiff of hope.

Also, if another card company was to enter the market, this is one area where Select could really lift its game.


MJD

I'm with you all the way, man!

I love collecting Topps Baseball cards, over any other brand in any other year, because they have complete year-by-year stats on the back of each players card. On the players' early cards, they even include Minor League stats, because they have room to do so. And in the Fleer Company's early years, they included as many years (Major or Minor League) worth of stats as they could fit onto the card.
When I was poor this was the only reason I chose Topps & Fleer over Donruss, Upper Deck, etc. Plus I avoided any 'premium' cards because they chucked a photo on the back of the card and left no room for the stats!
I think our love of the Stat-Backed card is a tad too traditional & nostalgic, and maybe in Select's eyes, it's been done to death. Maybe they could use it on the parallel sets as a one-off???
I think the 1994 Dynamic 10 Year Tribute subset was one of the best subsets ever in Rugby League cards - Just what i'd like all the time! In fact, I'd like every common set to have the Team's Logo in the top left hand corner of each card, like Scanlens did from 1987 thru 1991 - how easy are they to sort!
Nowadays, I go to the rugby league project site for all my career stats, as I've given up hope of them ever appearing on the cards.

But hey... we still may get the kinds of cards we'd love to see in the future!

Beef
 
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