2021 release ideas

Brendan_B · Jan 30, 2021

Agree with the above. TLA are certainly capable of producing cards that would be well received in an ultra high end release. While this might only cater toward a certain portion of the market, it would be a good addition.

In saying that, TLA’s inability to listen / take in advice, terrible quality control and worse, constant question marks regarding the honesty and integrity of their product makes me feel a really high end release might be beyond them.

Battingticks84 · Jan 30, 2021

Brendan_B said:
Agree with the above. TLA are certainly capable of producing cards that would be well received in an ultra high end release. While this might only cater toward a certain portion of the market, it would be a good addition.

In saying that, TLA’s inability to listen / take in advice, terrible quality control and worse, constant question marks regarding the honesty and integrity of their product makes me feel a really high end release might be beyond them.

The second paragraph you wrote is more my point as to why I don’t think they can pull it off successfully for it to maintain value. They definitely have the resources to make nice cards. Superheroes was an example of that. But when they are pumping out close to 50 different players having signature cards annually, and having the same players signing over and over again, it turns me off. An example of this is Corey Oates. I’ll never buy another Corey Oates signature card again. I don’t care how nice it is.

Brendan_B · Jan 30, 2021

Battingticks84 said:
The second paragraph you wrote is more my point as to why I don’t think they can pull it off successfully for it to maintain value. They definitely have the resources to make nice cards. Superheroes was an example of that. But when they are pumping out close to 50 different players having signature cards annually, and having the same players signing over and over again, it turns me off. An example of this is Corey Oates. I’ll never buy another Corey Oates signature card again. I don’t care how nice it is.

Absolutely. Producing the volume of signatures that TLA do was always going to drain the pool of potential signers quickly and cause double ups. The other aspect is that it causes prices to drop. Look at LS blacks? Aside from a few players and teams, you can pick up most for $60-$100 each.

A secondary factor to consider in this is that some players simply don’t want to sign cards and / or ask way over the going rate.

Hodgson has had three signatures for Canberra since 2016. This isn’t an issue for me as they have all been very different cards and he has a great signature.

Matt26 · Jan 30, 2021

Brendan_B said:
Agree with the above. TLA are certainly capable of producing cards that would be well received in an ultra high end release. While this might only cater toward a certain portion of the market, it would be a good addition.

In saying that, TLA’s inability to listen / take in advice, terrible quality control and worse, constant question marks regarding the honesty and integrity of their product makes me feel a really high end release might be beyond them.

100% this.

Matt26 · Jan 30, 2021

Brendan_B said:
Absolutely. Producing the volume of signatures that TLA do was always going to drain the pool of potential signers quickly and cause double ups. The other aspect is that it causes prices to drop. Look at LS blacks? Aside from a few players and teams, you can pick up most for $60-$100 each.

A secondary factor to consider in this is that some players simply don’t want to sign cards and / or ask way over the going rate.

Hodgson has had three signatures for Canberra since 2016. This isn’t an issue for me as they have all been very different cards and he has a great signature.

One of the strangest factors with the signature cards TLA produce is the signature cards in Traders #/100 seem to hold their value more than the base LS autos in Elite.

Brendan_B · Jan 30, 2021

Matt26 said:
One of the strangest factors with the signature cards TLA produce is the signature cards in Traders #/100 seem to hold their value more than the base LS autos in Elite.

It is an odd one. Maybe because more Elite gets busted than Traders? Puts more LS than Authentics on the secondary market?

Muzza · Jan 30, 2021

Also take into consideration that Traders is available to the wider public, moreso than Elite. Probably a fair few Traders Sigs fall into the hands of kid collectors and are rendered worthless. Good to attract new collectors with Traders type sets, but that's the downside.
I'm just a little disturbed (quite a bit actually, but that's another story) that they persist with certain inserts that, in my opinion, dont cut it. Those Galactic Heroes were the worst rubbish I've ever seen in any sports card. Street Art is not far behind and Startoons should have been one and done.
However, the ongoing Retirements is one on the best things I've ever collected.
Anyway, they're all we've got so I just hope for the best.

Looking forward to 2021 Traders, Muzza.

Paul_Ambrey · Jan 30, 2021

Muzza said:
Also take into consideration that Traders is available to the wider public, moreso than Elite. Probably a fair few Traders Sigs fall into the hands of kid collectors and are rendered worthless. Good to attract new collectors with Traders type sets, but that's the downside.
I'm just a little disturbed (quite a bit actually, but that's another story) that they persist with certain inserts that, in my opinion, dont cut it. Those Galactic Heroes were the worst rubbish I've ever seen in any sports card. Street Art is not far behind and Startoons should have been one and done.
However, the ongoing Retirements is one on the best things I've ever collected.
Anyway, they're all we've got so I just hope for the best.

Looking forward to 2021 Traders, Muzza.

I totally agree with you about the retirement cards.Keep them going.As for the startoons,i would rather see gem cards with different colour levels,like the 2007 select gem cards.

Brendan_B · Jan 30, 2021

Those 07 Gems were the best ever released.

ShayTheAussie · Jan 30, 2021

Muzza said:
Also take into consideration that Traders is available to the wider public, moreso than Elite. Probably a fair few Traders Sigs fall into the hands of kid collectors and are rendered worthless. Good to attract new collectors with Traders type sets, but that's the downside.
I'm just a little disturbed (quite a bit actually, but that's another story) that they persist with certain inserts that, in my opinion, dont cut it. Those Galactic Heroes were the worst rubbish I've ever seen in any sports card. Street Art is not far behind and Startoons should have been one and done.
However, the ongoing Retirements is one on the best things I've ever collected.
Anyway, they're all we've got so I just hope for the best.

Looking forward to 2021 Traders, Muzza.

Street Arts honestly aren’t too bad, they just don’t really fit well in the set. They should’ve just used Magic Rounds again but used different players for each team.

Brendan_B · Jan 30, 2021

ShayTheAussie said:
Street Arts honestly aren’t too bad, they just don’t really fit well in the set. They should’ve just used Magic Rounds again but used different players for each team.

Unfortunately due to COVID, there was no Magic Round in 2020 so that is not an option.

The SA’s were okay last year but a second year in a row, too much. There really are a bundle of other themes and concepts which would be much better.

ShayTheAussie · Jan 31, 2021

Brendan_B said:
Unfortunately due to COVID, there was no Magic Round in 2020 so that is not an option.

The SA’s were okay last year but a second year in a row, too much. There really are a bundle of other themes and concepts which would be much better.

What I meant was they could’ve used different players from the 2019 Magic Round.

the game rugby league · Jan 31, 2021

ShayTheAussie said:
Are you referring to the Traders?

all of it

Brendan_B · Jan 31, 2021

ShayTheAussie said:
What I meant was they could’ve used different players from the 2019 Magic Round.

Ah fair enough. Too much duplication for my liking.

Brendan_B · Jan 31, 2021

Low end subset options are really endless in possibility.

There are so many different stat categories now which can easily ground a set.

The Milestones set from 14 Traders was a cracker and I wish that had been an ongoing set in Traders.

Mattstorm · Jan 31, 2021

Could easily do a debut set or emerging players set every year to get 2 or 3 different faces on a card for each team too

ShayTheAussie · Jan 31, 2021

TLA‘ll probably come out with a “Code Hoppers“ set or some crap, since it’s TLA after all

ShayTheAussie · Jan 31, 2021

Brendan_B said:
Low end subset options are really endless in possibility.

There are so many different stat categories now which can easily ground a set.

The Milestones set from 14 Traders was a cracker and I wish that had be one a yearly set in Traders.

I feel like the Milestones would fit more into the Elite set rather than the Traders if I’m honest.

ElijahCraigHyde · Jan 31, 2021

Maybe Dally m predictors like the Brownlow predictors in AFL?

Or maybe a team packed opal mojo concept as in a case or half case hit?

ShayTheAussie · Jan 31, 2021

ElijahCraigHyde said:
Maybe Dally m predictors like the Brownlow predictors in AFL?

Or maybe a team packed opal mojo concept as in a case or half case hit?

Dally M Predictors would be a great thing to add to the set, but TLA always seems to stuff up it’s value.

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