2013 ESP Elite NRL Cards Thread (Updated 5/8/13)

Brendan_B · May 31, 2013

I will also start with a couple of boxes, always good to help the dealers who look after us so well!

shane_sharks · May 31, 2013

i think the next release will be much better

MILD · May 31, 2013

thenamesgould said:
This is hilarious, ESP have released two sets that haven't been popular on here (although both have had more sigs than any equivalent Select set ever) - how many crap sets did Select produce? And that's when they actually did release sets, so not 2010 then.

People have very selective (no pun intended) memories, and not a lot of patience.

We all know what they say about opinions, so I'm not going to claim that mine is correct or worth any more than anyone elses'. Having said that, ESP are 0-3 for me. The rep set was an over priced bust, Traders was alright but I don't put it ahead of Select's last Champions set (the retirement cards were very, very nice though) and the other game set which I didn't bother at all with. It isn't all about sigs for me, nor the very high end pieces. I differ from a lot of people here in that I won't go chasing mega dollar cards- I just want consistant action through a box. That might be selfish- I just want something worthwhile for buying a single box- and not appeal to case buyers but like I said, it is simply my opinion.

As for history, I am either blessed or cursed that I only rejoined the hobby last year with Champions 2012 and the simply awesome Dynasty. I understand Select has had troubles in the past and hasn't always done right by collectors so I understand the olds and bolds might have a few wounds but going from two offerings like that to the ESP efforts has been a disappointment. It might have only been the Champions release to some, but to me it was good enough to whet my appetite and rope me in to buying a box of Dynasty which I guess is the whole point of the cheaper sets. I can say that Traders has not had the same effect for me. Even looking at forum activity, it seems to me that nothing has come close to Dynasty since, and the forum is particularly split on ESP with two vocal camps of nay-sayers and optimists with only a few sitting in the middle uncommitted.

Will I give Elite a go? Yup. I'll go that far and see what happens from there.

To leave it on a positive, I thought the starter kits were a great way to move product and I will admit to buying a couple of them when I dropped into the news agent.

Dr Grange · May 31, 2013

thenamesgould said:
This is hilarious, ESP have released two sets that haven't been popular on here (although both have had more sigs than any equivalent Select set ever) - how many crap sets did Select produce? And that's when they actually did release sets, so not 2010 then.

People have very selective (no pun intended) memories, and not a lot of patience.

They have released 3 dud sets over priced & have lied about what they are releasing & have no idea of what they are releasing...
I personally don't care who produces the NRL cards as long as they are value for money & have plenty of inserts to chase down..

Noark-99 · Jun 1, 2013

Everybody deserves a fair chance.. I loved Select. From day dot. To days end. They had some crap releases...... (Starting from 2008).. But they had some bloody awesome ones too.. Out of 19 sets (IMO) only 4 sets were complete duds.. 2008-2011 champs.. 2012 champs had a few differences.. Much welcomed.. I love the gold cards..

2000-2001 great start. Some decent sigs.
2002-2003 new ideas. Ff...
2004 cap sigs. Enough said.
2005 two sets. Old revamp (which I Loved!!) & premium.
2006-2008. Consistent sets.
2009 crap champs, saved by cap sigs.
2010 Only champs. No comment.
2011. Champs get sigs. Strike. Made up for 2010 disappointment.
2012. Champs, slight changes, probably best champs release... Then end with Dynasty..... Brilliance..

Select 15/19.
ESP 0/3... or 1/3 Depending on who you talk to....

Select went well for 8 years before we really complained.... ESP has a lot to go up against.......

M

Jaames · Jun 1, 2013

I'd rather anything ESP does over select gems

#1 Eels fan · Jun 1, 2013

Noark-99 said:
Everybody deserves a fair chance.. I loved Select. From day dot. To days end. They had some crap releases...... (Starting from 2008).. But they had some bloody awesome ones too.. Out of 19 sets (IMO) only 4 sets were complete duds.. 2008-2011 champs.. 2012 champs had a few differences.. Much welcomed.. I love the gold cards..

2000-2001 great start. Some decent sigs.
2002-2003 new ideas. Ff...
2004 cap sigs. Enough said.
2005 two sets. Old revamp (which I Loved!!) & premium.
2006-2008. Consistent sets.
2009 crap champs, saved by cap sigs.
2010 Only champs. No comment.
2011. Champs get sigs. Strike. Made up for 2010 disappointment.
2012. Champs, slight changes, probably best champs release... Then end with Dynasty..... Brilliance..

Select 15/19.
ESP 0/3... or 1/3 Depending on who you talk to....

Select went well for 8 years before we really complained.... ESP has a lot to go up against.......

M

the biggest problem that everyone had with select is that they became so repetitive, you pretty much knew what you were getting before they released anything, for example was it 5 champions sets with those bobble head gems??? .
What gets me a bit is they didnt renew the NRL licsence and put out 2 really decent sets ???

Noark-99 · Jun 1, 2013

The only real (annoyingly) repetitive sets were the champions.... The first set was great.

In 2005 they decided on a cheaper more traditional set. Tradition, Accolade, Champions. And the idea was great...... Except they just kept going with the champs which single handedly ruined their reputation.

Had they just stuck with a single premium set they'd probably be fine........

I'd prefer see one "dynasty"'quality set a year than 5 crap releases a year....

Powerplay? Seriously? Even the kids think it's dumb.

ch0pzta · Jun 1, 2013

I think the key to having a set that is loved by collectors is to have a high end insert that has a card for each team. The LLBs were a great idea, it gave every collector a high end card to chase, rather than just the Storm/Broncos/etc fans who usually get looked after.

The 2004 Captains Sigs were a great idea as well for the same reason. If theres only 40 or 50 of each teams top card then they will retain their value, the teams fans will get their prize and the hardcore collectors can be challenged to get the whole set.

Nath from Newcastle · Jun 1, 2013

When is the next release from esp?

ch0pzta · Jun 1, 2013

Nath from Newcastle said:
When is the next release from esp?

Apparently all will be revealed in 2 weeks.

Dragon_Fire · Jun 2, 2013

Hope we do not get signature cards with hand written numbering in texta .
That"s just going back to the Dynamic Days

BLADE · Jun 2, 2013

Just found this guys. Princey doing the Broncos League Sensations signature cards

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...53287928.57446.229425513762492&type=1&theater

footypugs2011 · Jun 2, 2013

Geez he signed the one with the nice signature he does not the crap a lot of get. I have examples to show the difference

GiRDS- · Jun 2, 2013

So we now know

League Sensations
- Tim Grant
- Scott Prince

Future Stars
- Michael Lichaa
- Tyrone Phillips

for those who missed yesterdays revelations. heres the photos

Matt26 · Jun 2, 2013

Those League Sensations look insane.....very classy!

Matt26 · Jun 2, 2013

GiRDS- said:
So we now know

League Sensations
- Tim Grant
- Scott Prince

Future ****** (Not sure on subset name, can make out future from the photo but)
- Michael Lichaa
- Tyrone Phillips

for those who missed yesterdays revelations. heres the photos

They are called Future Stars

shane_sharks · Jun 2, 2013

love the lichaa card

GiRDS- · Jun 2, 2013

i hope the base set looks very similar to the sig cards. would be amazing for ip's. and they genuinely look perfect. i think esp have hired some better graphic designers, dont want to get my hopes up too much but this is 3000 times better then there last few sets already

shane_sharks · Jun 2, 2013

hopefully there numbered with a production run

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