14/15 Flawless thread

drobfan8 · Oct 4, 2015

Surprised there's no thread yet so figured I'd start one.

Please feel free to post thoughts on what you think and what you're chasing.

Go ahead and post any cards you hit or purchase

I'm always a fan of the base and this year is no different. I actually really like some of the Alma mater cards. Have my eyes on a couple.

Best of luck to all with your chases.

Billyhoyle · Oct 4, 2015

just hit these

penny collector · Oct 5, 2015

I am loving flawless this year! I love the USA stuff. It is the first product this year that has brought cardboard to the top of my wantlist

drobfan8 · Oct 5, 2015

penny collector said:
I am loving flawless this year! I love the USA stuff. It is the first product this year that has brought cardboard to the top of my wantlist

There are some incredible USA cards.

I really like that you could essentially have a base card of your PC guy in his NBA jersey, his College jersey and his USA jersey. Some won't like that, but I think it's pretty sweet.

nichj99 · Oct 5, 2015

I think its a huge upgrade over last year... however i'm not so thrilled that the 1/1's are now a black foil. the platinum silver to me looked far more prestigious!

drobfan8 · Oct 5, 2015

nichj99 said:
I think its a huge upgrade over last year... however i'm not so thrilled that the 1/1's are now a black foil. the platinum silver to me looked far more prestigious!

Agreed, the black does not look good at all. The /25 or /20 silver foil is much more appealing.

I think this set will do well long term. The vertical patches are really nice.

I rate the base set highly also.

Dual greats patch autos are a winner also.

mattyman76 · Oct 5, 2015

managed to snag these ones so far.

jwill7 · Oct 5, 2015

Love the base silver with the holofoil but at the same time it kind of detracts (a little anyway) from the set when the easiest cards to come by are the best looking! The parallels are overdone with the Ruby/Emerald/Black foil version all looking like a downgrade and I suspect longer-term it'll be the "base" versions of cards that hold their value relative to scarcity.

While this year's set is a treat for those looking to buy singles, and a step up from last year (which wasn't helped by a terrible rookie class), it's hard to get particularly excited about the way Panini has even managed to water down their highest of high end. Stolen from BO forums but I think this nicely summarises part of the problem (along with the weaker than it should be vet autos):

2012-2013 Flawless Total Box Production = 2600 Total Boxes

2012-2013 Flawless Rookie Signatures (Across ENTIRE Print Run)
Anthony Davis = 417 Total Autos

Anthony Davis Rookie Autos per Box = 16%

2014-2015 Flawless Total Box Production = 3775 Total Boxes

2014-2015 Flawless Rookie Signatures (Across ENTIRE Print Run)
Andrew Wiggins = 336 Total Autos

Andrew Wiggins Rookie Autos per Box = 8%

Quite simply, there is no excuse for an encased hit to be Ricky Rubio or even Chris Paul in a product that people are paying around $2400AUD a box for.

sacface · Oct 6, 2015

I'm also loving some of the flawless sets this year.
Hoping to pick up a few dual patches myself.

missed this as i was driving home from holidays yesterday.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161847150024?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

but look at this!!!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391279781834?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

nichj99 · Oct 6, 2015

I'm still Faried-less from Flawless. I have got some trade bait tho

penny collector · Oct 6, 2015

sacface said:
I'm also loving some of the flawless sets this year.
Hoping to pick up a few dual patches myself.

missed this as i was driving home from holidays yesterday.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161847150024?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

but look at this!!!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391279781834?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Yeah I have that rose in my watchlist, what a sensational card!

penny collector · Oct 6, 2015

nichj99 said:
I'm still Faried-less from Flawless. I have got some trade bait tho

And I am Penniless and will literally be If pick any up!

I am unsure whether to wait or not? it is always hard to know availability and price down the track and I feel like the USA cards are being chased by a few set collectors aswell which makes me even more unsure of which way to go!

nichj99 · Oct 6, 2015

Wait, unless it's super low numbered. Even rookie year Faried I was able to get the #/5 18 months later and for a quarter of the price.

Telfs Card Park · Oct 6, 2015

Danny Green has 19 Flawless cards, better start saving!

DJW · Oct 6, 2015

I had OKC in 2 Cases and got not 1 card.
I purchased the Hornets in the second case that I had the Thunder in just so they would bust it
and landed a Parish Auto /10 and a BIG AL /5 Base, Emerald I think.
Noticed lots of variety and there seemed like real value in the lower end teams.

KB. · Oct 8, 2015

I've seen some really stunning patches I'd love to have, but I'm limiting my picks ups to a couple of nice Clifford Robinson patch autos if I can get them at a decent price.

Flugel for 3 · Oct 9, 2015

The only card I've snagged in the breaks I have been in . Kyrie RW&B base

sacface · Oct 9, 2015

missed this by 4 cents... grrrrrrr
third time i have been the 2nd highest bidder for a dual patch...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381426694912?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

penny collector · Oct 9, 2015

sacface said:
missed this by 4 cents... grrrrrrr
third time i have been the 2nd highest bidder for a dual patch...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381426694912?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Wow that was an amazing looking card too! My flawless pickups have been extremely limited as Pennies prices are CRAZY!!!!! The USA stuff is through the roof 250 for an auto #to 25!

karlsta26 · Oct 9, 2015

sacface said:
missed this by 4 cents... grrrrrrr
third time i have been the 2nd highest bidder for a dual patch...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381426694912?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I was second highest bidder on that one

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